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Thanks Jared. Really enjoying your thoughts and analysis.

One issue I don’t heard discussed much in the media is the issue of relatively profitability on the goods and services we export, as compared to the goods and services we import.

On some superficial level, people who are not economists do indeed get overly frothed up by this concept that the administration constantly harps on regarding the persistent and large trade deficit. Economists get less frothed up and see nuance in trade deficits, with some seeing it as a problem we should try to fix, and others simply talking about the great efficiencies of globalism that has benefits and costs, but is overall ok because it reflects the great improvements in productivity over decades.

But all of this discussion of trade deficits is focused on the dollar value of trade at the top line. I suspect that U.S. sales of products globally are more profitable than sales by other countries into the U.S. If mexico sells a billion dollars of tomatoes to the U.S. at low margins, but Apple sells $500 milion IPhones to Germans or Mexicans, that creates a trade deficit. But Apple is making an enormous profit on those IPhones, whic it can then use to employ engineers to create moat for their business or to pay dividiends. Who is getting “ripped off”.

Then consider the enormous margins in services, like Facebook and Google or in entertainment products. People in normal parlance use the phrase “ripped off” to mean I was overcharged for something and the seller is making a fortune. Too much profit being taken from me. But in the context of trade, this concept is turned upside down.

The question I have is why we aren’t hearing public discussion of relative profitability, which might take some of the fang and anger out of the discussion of trade flows.

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Joan Breibart's avatar

Tariffs and our economy require a Phd in Economics to even get to an elementary level of understanding. But here's what we have to remember: China has 1.5 Billion-- five times our population AND almost everyone in China is an atheist or a non-believer whereas Americans love religion and believe in superstition and don't want to understand evolution; and China has been planning revenge ever since the HUNDRED years of humiliation so I don't think we should feel confident that threatening them will work for us.

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